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(ST perf. brakes) Put on my winter tires/wheels today

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Replaced the Pirelli 265/40ZR21s with 245/50R20s

In less than 1" of snow, the Pirelli's are useless. No traction or steering capabilities.

P0s on the Left.

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Bought a complete package with the sensors installed.

TPMS was never effected, monitor worked as if nothing changed.

Winter set-up:

 

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Summer set-up:

 

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Winter tires are directional, so I will only be able to rotate RF to RR and LF to LR.

No cross rotating these tires.

 

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Should have bought Pirelli Scorpion Zero AS+.

They are asymmetrical so you can cross rotate and they are just as good as the PZERO on dry roads. PZERO is a SUMMER ONLY tire and it is useless below 45F, even on a dry smooth road.

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Now that it is April, I though I would come back and let you know how the Pirelli Scorpion Zero AS+ tires are doing.

I have put on 11,000 miles on this through his light winter we had and there is almost no wear on them.

They are very quiet and they ride just like the P Zeros.

The same I could say for the Performance Brake pads both front and rear.

Only showing 1mm of wear for 19,000 total miles traveled !!

The pads are just a bit squeaky !!!

 

 

Pete...

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Thanks touringmike! 
Exactly what I was looking for.
So we have a vote for winters. I am going to use go winter wheels and tires with TPMS and do the swap out as you advise.

 

Any else have an opinion on all seasons year round before I give my money to Tire Rack?

Thanks, Phil.
 

 

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Before trying TireRack, give a local tire dealer a chance to match or beat Tirerack's prices.

When I bought 4 Pirelli Scorpion ZERO All Season Plus tires, I asked my Service Manager for his best price.

He priced me at $195 each including mounting and balancing when Amazon wanted $218 each tire shipped PRIME.

 

Now is the time we should all be supporting local businesses anyway.

 

Just a thought...

 

Pete...

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Thanks Pete. Any concerns with handling or traction concerns when using the all seasons on heavier snow or ice?

 

I will give my shop a chance as well.

 

Phil

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I have only had the Edge ST for 15 months and last winter the snow was light in Westchester County, New York.

I had no problems last winter and rain driving is excellent.

 

You can't really tell the different from the P Zero and the Scorpion Zero All Season Plus in spring, summer and fall weather.

I didn't have the P Zero on last winter so I can't give you an experienced comparison.

I swapped them October 2019 and have not had any issues at all.

 

The only physical difference you can see other than tread, is the shoulder around the wheel is definitely thicker

on the P Zero than the Scorpion Zero All Season Plus. So you need to be careful around curbs.

 

Pete...

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